Since I started this blog last summer, I’ve dedicated quite a bit of time to debunking all theories presented regarding the Montauk Monster. Was it a dog? Was it a pig? A viral marketing ploy? Honestly, it really doesn’t matter at this point as the original carcass was stolen and later disintegrated into a “ball of goo”.
On Wednesday May 5th 2009, I was contacted by a couple that sent a message to the general e-mail box on this website claiming they think they’ve found what appears to be the Montauk Monster. Naturally, I questioned it thinking it was BS, but they seemed credible enough (after a phone conversation of course) to take an hour drive to Southold and see it for myself up close and personal.
Upon discovery, it resembled what everyone saw last summer. This monster was located in Southold, NY on the Bay Area. For those who are unfamiliar with the area, this is the North Fork of Long Island. The beast smelled like a mix of low-tide and rotten garbage. It really smelled horrific. I couldn’t help but take numerous pictures of it and video clips.
The couple who tipped me off loaded the carcass into a garbage bag and took it home with them. We’ve been in correspondence numerous times and have agreed that for the remainder of the week, we’d keep this matter to ourselves. The remains are currently located in Southold in a cooler full of ice.
I wanted to think about the best way to expose this to the public. Since I own this medium, and have a genuine interest in the subject matter, I’d like to be the first to share this you. We did not contact any authorities as from previous experiences; the carcass has been taken from the finders or mysteriously “stolen”. If this is a genetic mishap from Plum Island, we’d like to sell the remains to an independent lab for study. It has become a race against the clock as the couple who originally found “Beastie” are diligently putting more ice into the cooler to keep the carcass fresh.
Also, I’ve thought about the possibilities that this carcass may be carrying H1N1 influenza. (The Swine Flu) Sorry, my mind is racing now, but I haven’t ruled out biological warfare on this yet. A diseased carcass floating in waterways around Long Island could be infecting the water, fish, etc. We still need to remember that Plum Island is where Lyme Disease originated, it’s really not too far fetched to believe that this carcass (if from Plum Island) could be carrying bacteria or disease.
Here is a video clip of our discovery:
After viewing this video above, please keep in mind that my intentions are not waste your time with a recreation of the Blair Witch Project. This video was taken at night on the beach where the monster was found. (Founder’s Landing Park, Southold NY)
I would like your honest opinion even you tell me “it’s a dog!” My intentions from the beginning have been to inform my readers of “The Truth, The Legend, and The Mystery” behind The Montauk Monster, a 2008 phenomenon. Additionally, I’m not interested in going on the Geraldo Rivera show like my buddy Mike did last summer as an eyewitness. It’s a tempting offer taking a limousine full of champagne sent by Geraldo to a TV studio, but I’ll take this time now to politely decline.
Here’s the deal:
I’m only interested in dealing with publications who have a genuine interest in this story, or have previously covered the Montauk Monster. I’m not looking to waste my time or the media’s. I have over 70 high quality pictures that I took personally from a Lumix digital camera (14.7 megapixels) which includes close-ups and multiple angles of The Montauk Monster.
If your publication is interested in obtaining exclusive pictures of The Montauk Monster or would like to interview Nicky Papers (yours truly!) please e-mail us. Local laboratories and independent research firms I encourage to contact us as well as we’d like to receive conclusive results as to what the Montauk Monster really is.
What do you think this monster is? Comment here.
Kind regards and best wishes,
Nicky Papers
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This is a link to the skull anatomy of a beaver it really does make sense comparing it to how you described it here. If it was a beaver the wide part of the tail and the front of the face(soft tissue) probably dissolved or was eaten away if it was in the water for an extended period of time.
Notice the top of the skull in the diagram has flat area that appears above the teeth. If the incisors have fallen out the “beak” might appear to be front teeth. In addition the toes that are like “matchsticks” as you describe them, look like the toes of a beaver -with out the webbing ;in this link http://www.enchantedlearning.com/subjects/mammals/rodent/Beavprintout.shtml
There doesn’t seem to be a good indication of how big the creatures were in length that have been found and there is no frame of reference in your video that shows the size so I can’t be sure but it appears to have the same front teeth structure as a beaver and with large molars that only makes it appear to be a more likely candidate. Beavers are noted at about 3 feet in length…Has there been any DNA testing of the remains? You can resolve the ‘mystery’ very quickly that way!
I think you found a genetic freak–a poor and sad attempt by some crazed scientist to make a hybrid of something…probably for the military.
Either that or you faked it and are fooling the world like those “Big Foot” guys did last year.
Its a Nauga without its hide
I don’t see what all the mystery is about… It’s clearly Nancy Pelosi.
What I don’t get is….this is the “second” discovery….and it is found in one of the most expensive place to visit and yet NO ONE has taken the specimen to a lab for further analyzing??
I think it is a joke by some “rich” brats. Kind of like a Paris Hilton move to get “attention”….If you will.
So far no one has proof other than a photos, small film footage and word of mouth.
Yep I am interested in it..if it is real. But it really eludes me as to how we have all this out there and no one stopped these people to find the creature and take it to a science lad for further study….is that not odd to anyone??
And this was the first thing I thought of when I read the article ….
The Island of Dr. Moreau..Movie 1996 starring Val Kilmer
Anyone? Anyone?
it also looks like the The Dover Demon that was posted on Newsday.Com–”Monsters or legends? 40 creatures that may exist”
Picture Number 23….. the face and all look similar to me.
I’m not sure what it is, but if it’s real in anyway, then where in the world are our scientists on this thing??
I just don’t get it…
Maybe Jacob Anderson is right! A cross between a bird and a pig…Hey!
maybe the source of swine flu. : ) …or perhaps the old adage has come true…when pigs fly
Well, depending on it’s size, if not a GIANT GROUND SLOTH, at least a SLOTH of some sort.
It looks like a turtle without a shell.
Most interesting Indeed! I would love to find (as many others) that this creature is an heretofore unknown species or mutation. However, the thought and image occurred to me that the possibility of a once thought to be extinct; the GIANT GROUND SLOTH may be a possiblity. The “fingers” kinda’ resemble as such. Something to check into though.
I think this last find, along with the two odd animal corpses, deserve further investigation. I do NOT understand why people think these are nothing but normal, know animals. Our science is much more advanced that most understand. We can clone a puppy, exactly like a another beloved pet. Japan recently showed off a genetically altered dog as well, it glowed in the dark. Researchers are very close to recreating the extinct Tasmanian Tiger from DNA preserved for a 100 years in a dead tiger fetus. Do you all honestly think that gene alteration and combining is NOT taking place?
I have first hand knowledge that type genetic mixing is a scientific fact not fiction. We have the knowledge to create new animals, part one thing, part another.
Even without human intervention, every species on this planet is ever evolving, a natural process of mutation. Add exposure to certain chemical, bacteria and toxic by-products, who knows what will happen. Frogs with three legs are a known mutation to such exposure and exist today. New crearures are being discovered every day that were previously unknown. However, a find like that in a highly populated area is unlikely, but not impossible.
Therefore, there are several ways these creatures could have come to life. Even with the effects of decomposition and bloating from a corpse being in water, these dead animals exhibit many odd features. The shape of the head and jaw structure for one. The head is not as prone to bloating from decomosition, and bone is not effected, not at all. They also seem to be very short limbed, especially the last two. The paws are very odd as well. No animal as a whole seems to fit. The last was not washed a shore but had been buried in the sand for about a week or two, another odd fact. It also seems to be missing part of it’s head, specificly the lower jaw from what I could see in the video.
There is an easy way to know for sure, at least in the one corpse that has not yet disappeared….DNA. A few hours in a lab and you will know the real name of a monster. Is it a dog, a large rat or other native creature? My first thought on the first corpse was that it was in fact a member of the rodent family and yes, rats can grow to the size of a large cat. These was no size reference in the first , nothing of scale in the picture. It could have been 6 lbs, 15lbs or 40lbs, who knows? The last two appear to be 20 to 30 pounds in size,
There are many possibilities here, from the normal to the extreme. I for one would like an real answer. Is it an everyday known animal? Nature doing her job ? A by-product of our mis-use of this planet by making it our dumping ground for wastes and toxic material? Or a creation of man, in a vain attempt to play God by altering or creating life in a lab?
I’m NOT a believer in most myths or legends. A dinosaur in Loch Ness? No. An 8 foot Ape in North America? Not likely. Animal mutilation by aliens? LOL. However, in this case we have something the others can not claim…. a body with extractable DNA. Let see were that fact leads us, because DNA does not and can not lie.
You know it could be any thing. you don’t know that it’s a monster there are alot of things out in the ocean that we probably don’t know of. so it could be anything. it could be a weird looking dog that washed up with a party hat on it’s face. but it aint a monster. monsters aren’t real. duh!!!
Sorry the author is Rupert Matthews.
This looks very much like a Rhynschosaurs of the Triassic Period dinosaurs from the Mammal – Like Reptiles. Living over 200 million years ago. A picture of it can be found in the book “DINOSAURS Through Time” By Rupert Matthes and on page 17.
Good to see black ops has been here attempting to discredit reality and make innocents look as fools. Any simpleton can look and see the similarities between pig and bird but none see the striking coincidence that we were just hit with a pig / bird flu. AND its exactly what they do at plum island. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Island_Animal_Disease_Center
Per shame, simpletons and overpaid government crooks have ruined this nation. Enjoy your communism.
As much as I would love for this to be a monster, I really think it looks like a dog.
Looks like a bear to me.
I would bet you a steak dinner, sure looks like my ex-wife………………..
B
sorry its supposed to say”dude its probably nothing……”
dude it probably just bs but who knows it could be some defromed animal or some goernment experiment gone wrong but that s just one persons thoughts
I’m not sure what it is, but this looks like the most authentic thing I have seen so far. It is for sure a mammal judging by the skull and body/skin not a reptile. I don’t think its a dog because the front limbs are so short but its not a sea mammal either because the limbs don’t signify that. I guess once they test the DNA they will find out, but the other supposed Montauk Monster on the bottom of your page is for sure a fake it looks like a bleached skull set into some latex prop. Has anyone tried to simulate a dog,rat,cat corpse that has been submerged for an extensive amount of time to see if the result looks similar?
I really think this thing is a large turtle without his shell.
I can’t help but agree with the guy in the video, its like a huge mole. I tried checking out pictures of mole skulls but its hard to compair two pictures from different angles.
no such thing as a turtle out of its shell (unless you count guts)
the original montauk monster is definitely freaking weird looking but this is definitely a decomposing raccoon or large rodent (skeletal structure doesn’t look canine to me but there are a lot of possibilities with breeding).
the skulls look nothing alike this is definitely basic small mammal morphology, the MM seemed unique with a beak-like exposed premaxilla (http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/resources/anatomical_images/dog_skull/dog_lateral.jpg) and oddly receded brow-ridge–possible with domestic dog breeding (http://www.boneroom.com/casts/images_bc/dog_frenchbull.jpg) but i still dont so much buy that the original MM was something status quo.. the whole morphology was way crazy (eg. ‘hands’ (though during decomposition mammalian paws can start to look a LOT like human hands in structure) and rear quarters) but i’m no specialist on what the options are and there could very well be an animal that could look like that when decomposing…
please refer to this link for an example of baffling morphologies related to selective breeding in Canis lupus familiarus:
http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/inquiry/oddspot/2004/punched.asp
this is most definitely a regular mammal waterlogged and decomposing. before you commit to and redistribute assumed information please do your homework, compare to skeletal structures and if u dont buy it ask a more specialized person or two to take a look and explain what it actually is.
bearpaw-human foot/hand mistake cases:
http://www.ktuu.com/Global/story.asp?S=8348311
http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/blog/view/113
Human & Nonhuman Bone Identification:
http://books.google.com/books?id=Z-C1jKNgjmQC&pg=PA537&lpg=PA537&dq=forensic+anthropology+common+mistakes+bear+paws&source=bl&ots=MUq0cBDqS_&sig=d6fXINkMPp9uMRGJMczZ5SqL8cw&hl=en&ei=bdUPSvSSGeCLtgff26yECA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2#PPA549,M1
interesting but what I think this is a mutation between animals that live in the drains under de cities and thats why its smells so bad. and it might not be a unknown spicies but maybe this animal evolucionated and adopted to live in swamp and drains where they can find food to survive and now we the humans are contaminating al natural resources and that why thi animals are dying.
I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more articles from you in the future.
- Jack
When I first saw this picture, I swore to God it was some deformed cow… until I saw another picture. The odds of two cows in different time periods and places having the same deformity? Slim to none. I do believe in creatures like these, growing up learning about the Jersey Devil and the Loch Ness Monster. I still spend the days of driving in Pennsylvania scanning the woods for the infamous Ape Boy. xD
To get back on topic, I honestly don’t think it’s a raccoon. After seeing many pictures of the Montauk Monster, I decided to research picutres of what others considered the Montauk Monster and figured that it could only be something paranormal.
Great blog Nicky, and an excellent piece of work.
I had published a little story in the UK here about the initial find, and after finding your site today I also done the follow up.
I have used a pic from your site (copyrighted to yourself) and taken my text in summary from your own. I hope that is ok with you, I gave the relevant links etc.
KUTGW, and add me to any mailing list you may have.
Other various creatures have washed ashore in many parts of the world from time to time in the last decade or so. Most of the creatures that have been found were located in northern hemispheres, for example a sea creature resembling the loch ness monster washed ashore in a remote Russian fishing village a few years ago. It could be possible that the melting ice caps are expelling the remains of frozen creatures that have yet to be identified or discovered through fossil records. I did a quick research to verify the flow of melting ice caps or sheets in relation to the ocean currents and thus far have found nothing conclusive. Just a thought.
I believe that they are conducting experiments by mixing the eggs and sperm of diffent animals for some type of sick research…
Why don’t people read the comments here before they reply?
For the 100th time, it’s not a turtle: it has teeth, and turtles cannot come out of their shells because the shell is the ribcage, including the vertebrae of the back. If you tried to get a turtle out of its shell, you’d just rip the neck off. Learn to scroll, people!
Also, it can’t be a koala because the teeth are all wrong, every single one of them.
It’s a half-decayed raccoon. This is exactly what a half-decayed raccoon that has floated in the sea for a while looks like. Guess what, there are people who study what happens to dead bodies; it’s called the science of taphonomy, and it’s very important to understand fossils, because most fossils are fossils of half-decayed carcasses – often ones that floated in water for some time –, not of fresh dead animals.
I’m currently studying a master’s degree in forensic science here in Britain, just so you know that I’m not talking BS for the next part. I’m just giving you my opinion here so it’s up to you what you do with it:
1) I think the best thing for you to do would be to send off a bone marrow and blood sample to all your local labs and creditable universities even if they haven’t asked for it. The sample doesn’t have to be very large at all as I know that you can’t keep ‘defrosting’ the carcass but it may also be a good idea to get into contact with any police labs dealing with crime scenes and so on.
2) You probably are already doing this but check up on the carcass, and the people who found it, quite regularly. I’m sure they are soon going to get tired of having a decomposing ‘animal’ in the house and may even decide to go public themselves. That’s the worst possible thing that can happen as they’ll be paid a visit by a bunch of men in suits who will come into their house and cart it away or it’ll get ’stolen’. Which leads on to the last point you’ll be glad to hear?
3) Be as careful as possible when travelling to and from anywhere related to the carcass. With each post that you get on here you’re going to be attracting attention to yourself and whilst it sounds so clichéd I honestly don’t believe this to be some ”bloated boxer dog’, if this is some experiment conducted by the Animal testing lab (I forgot the name) then they are soon going to want to remove all physical evidence of its existence which is why those samples should be taken as soon as possible.
Why waste time if you watched animal planet half as much as me you can tell what this is or at least the type of animal it is. This is just a bloated Moniter Lizard that has been dead for quite some time. Or perhaps they are the infamous Komodo Dragons although the moniter lizard seems more reasonable to me.
Ok, that is freaky. I’d never heard about this thing until today.
My first instinct is to suspect biological/genetic engineering of a species hybrid of some sort. This would fit, vaguely, with the fact that lyme disease came from the area (supposedly the research lab nearby).
Someone mentions a turtle. The head itself looks vaguely like a turtle, from the top – but not from the sides. Additionally, the arms are too long and of the wrong shape for a turtle, and the body too porcine for any turtle I’m aware of that can reach that size (certainly true for most sea turtles). The limbs don’t even look remotely like a tortoise.
As for what I do see:
* both this and the ‘original’ photo appear to be of the ’same’ animal, though aged (on the beach/in the water/etc.) for different lengths of time. This one appears to have had the skull destroyed (inadvertently or intentionally, i don’t know – isn’t the lower jaw useful in determining a species of origin?)
* the mouth of this creature appears to have both a definite avian beak (to me, it looks like a parakeet); other photos have a similar look, but this one in particular looks avian.
* there are a couple pictures where the creature has uneven hair, or maybe a beard type growth under the chin. Additionally, the ones with hear seem to have more of a porcine (think: boar) snout.
* The carcass looks somewhat fetal and undeveloped (as do the others, but this one in particular). The limbs look incomplete and ungrown, or possibly destroyed (like a fish’s flippers are after it’s been dead for a while floating about).
* This thing is certainly mammalian. From the looks of it, it’s a “white meat” animal, similar to a pig, squirrel or human.
* When an animal dies and is subjected to heat/sun, it dries out the skin and underlying meat; the thinner meaty parts of the carcass, such as the meat around the mouth (lips) dries out first, resulting in the lips pulling up in a ghastly grin (on a person) or in the typical “roadkill squirrel” expression. The other popular montauk monster picture illustrates this. If you look closely at the face and imagine what it might have looked like with ‘full’ muscles, it looks freakishly human-like in proportions.
* The rrear limbs look porcine (up to the ‘ankle’) and the front look freakishly human in their potential articulation (on the popular photo)
* This thing looks like no creature I’ve ever heard of or seen – not even remotely similar. It doesn’t look prehistoric; it looks like some sort of mutant out of a Doom game.
* The legs look like they may have articulated in a fashion allowing it to walk upright (if
* the “hands”/claws look undeveloped – somewhat like the sheered wings of a bird, and somewhat like a deformed hand sent through a meat shredder.
If I were to guess what this thing is, I’d not guess it was any one particular “thing”. I’d suppose that they’re variations of an experiment, as they’re all noticeably different, with different features having precedence. This might be due to gender and maturation (if they’re fetal), or it might be due to variations in the genetic composition – or both. I’d guess that it’s some sort of genetic homogenization of pigs, man, and birds – or maybe just pigs and man.
Government genetic project.
X file, call Mulder.
Government genetic project.
X file, call Mlder
Lets see more pictures and actual videos
I THINK ITS A HYBRID OF SOME TYPE OFF ANIMAL OR IT CAN ALSO BE A RARE SPECIES THAT HAS NOT YET BEEN DISCOVERED.IT CAN ALSO BE AN ANIMAL THAT GOT EXTINT MANY YEARS AGO AND THAT SINCE THERES NOT MANY LEFT PEOPLE HAVENT SEEN IT BEFORE.
It could be a polar bear,
Everyone that is linking to the article that was wrote by Darren Naish, I could careless if he is a zoologist or whatever, you can not identify something this decomposed by looking at pictures.
Clearly no one knows what these is, so I’m waiting for the test (if there’s going to be one)
and by dog i mean the above pictures the video did not look canine
add to last comment…. dog… bull or rot …. but deffinatly jaw and teeth structure of a dog didnt look close enuf the first time the fact its paws are gone are kinda “suspiciously perculiar to a butchering of the carcass”
have u considered a contaminated or radiated or mutated warf rat? ive personally seen warf rats large enough (and have seen them do so ) drag off small dogs and cats. another good question would be are you going to DNA test the creature . the picture above looks bird and catlike not very aquatic . and the video itself didnt show signs of much aquatic appendages gills etc. have u consider cryptozoology? or the possiblity that its a land creature drowned or at the very least another hoax like the bigfoot carcass
the first one looks like a mutant pig, and the new one looks likea mutant bird
It looks like an altered Bear. It’s pretty big to be a dog, but you never know.
hey people yea so some people r sayin its a turtle out of its shell if it wasthe nda would say that but it doesnt its jsut sum undiscovered creature if its from plum island then the workers there would say it was
Well, I don’t really have a speculation on what the thing is, but I do have a question…
Maybe I just haven’t looked around the site and news enough, but how come there haven’t been like… autopsies done on either of the corpses? Couldn’t people find out what it is if they dissect it a bit?
well i dont think its a dog. whatsoever. even if it aint real or bs. we have to keep in mind that the ocean is pretty deep. who knows what’s living down there. I do believe that there are creatures that we have not seen yet or ever will. So as if it is real or not. i would doubt it, for the simple reason that people would do anything to be on t.v. and because i do believe that it could be real. so only if a scientist agreed with it i could say its for real. as for now you have the reason of doubt.
once again its a man-bear-pig-dog-fish-bird,and its all the goverments fault
careful what you wish for,the answer may scare you,and chances are its bigger than the island
I dont know much about this stuff! but if it has got something to do mith swine flu or any contageous virus , then it should be given attention. It mght help cure that influenza………